tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2704068707505574570.post4850557024766952970..comments2023-11-02T08:41:04.774-05:00Comments on Logan E. Turner: Writing Wednesday (1)Logan E. Turnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06468248031164464546noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2704068707505574570.post-50642193245486201382011-01-10T09:51:39.069-06:002011-01-10T09:51:39.069-06:00@Debra - I think I read somewhere that the Dragon ...@Debra - I think I read somewhere that the Dragon Tattoo plot was inspired by some actual events or an article he read. I could be wrong, but I think the twisty plot may have come first, which is interesting because it doesn't read that way. To me, it reads like he had this great Lisbeth character and wasn't sure what to do with her all of the time.<br /><br />@Alison - Thanks for stopping by! I hope you are well and that we see each other soon (if this is the Alison I think it is).Logan E. Turnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06468248031164464546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2704068707505574570.post-58716203563289977832011-01-09T13:29:19.964-06:002011-01-09T13:29:19.964-06:00In response to your mom's question: Twisty plo...In response to your mom's question: Twisty plot or twisty girl? It's the tautology of the ages...I'll let you know how I end up ;)<br /><br />Your blog is: Amazing, Brilliant, Interesting, Pretty<br /><br />Can't wait to stop back for more, and maybe someday have something to say for myself as a writer/nonwriter (unknown as twisty plot hasn't gone there yet).<br /><br />@Alisonalimohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05474994409301699825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2704068707505574570.post-49613673107629220152011-01-06T20:33:58.682-06:002011-01-06T20:33:58.682-06:00Medieval high fantasy! Awesome!Medieval high fantasy! Awesome!Ayleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07639250102446794830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2704068707505574570.post-29163194675594245812011-01-06T18:19:58.681-06:002011-01-06T18:19:58.681-06:00I've been thinking about your questions as I f...I've been thinking about your questions as I finished the Stieg Larsson trilogy this morning. Characters definitely propelled me into the 2nd and 3rd. There were times when the plot pulled together ominously and compellingly, but the author kept losing control, I thought. Could have been tighter. But which came first: twisty plot or twisty Girl??Debra Turnernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2704068707505574570.post-3799503985849563342011-01-06T16:36:33.998-06:002011-01-06T16:36:33.998-06:00When I started writing my fantasy, the world came ...When I started writing my fantasy, the world came first. The world shaped the characters and the characters shaped the conflict. My first draft was handwritten (don't ask), then typed and revised, then sent to a good friend who suggested (in a loving sort of way) that the ending really sucked. After a stunning epiphany, I wrote a bang-fab-pow ending. Am now struggling to find a beginning that works with the new end. The characters do tend to act the way they want, once you turn 'em loose.Debra Turnernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2704068707505574570.post-19783425305470423932011-01-06T13:09:54.265-06:002011-01-06T13:09:54.265-06:00@Alyson - Whatever process works for you is great....@Alyson - Whatever process works for you is great. No shame in working backwards. I think it's cool.<br /><br />@Aylee - It was more high fantasy. Vague time period, but definitely medieval-ish. Think Robin Hood. I'm glad you like the idea. I think there's something there, I just need to play around with it.Logan E. Turnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06468248031164464546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2704068707505574570.post-2135353157178290672011-01-05T18:42:20.734-06:002011-01-05T18:42:20.734-06:00I'm definitely not a writer so I don't hav...I'm definitely not a writer so I don't have any answers to the questions you pose but can I just say: the story that you wrote for NaNoWriMo actually sounds super interesting to me! Magical pet cougar! So is this novel high fantasy or urban fantasy?Ayleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07639250102446794830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2704068707505574570.post-17558142811740560212011-01-05T17:50:40.965-06:002011-01-05T17:50:40.965-06:00Congratulations on NaNoWriMo! I wrapped up with a...Congratulations on NaNoWriMo! I wrapped up with a measly 5000 words...but I suppose I was cheating anyway because I was re-writing my already written story.<br /><br />I generally don't even get ideas about characters, or plots...I start thinking of individual vignettes that usually come together in a plot in some increasingly convoluted way, and the unfortunate people involved in them generally end up becoming my characters in one way or another. Usually, I start with the very last scene of the book and work my way backwards. It's a bizarre process, and it keeps me guessing (even after the first draft is finished, which is something of a problem)...but I like to think it works?<br /><br />Although, since my writing bends historical, I tend to fixate on a setting before anything else.Alysonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12950629760060046846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2704068707505574570.post-25529744455520821492011-01-05T12:34:52.194-06:002011-01-05T12:34:52.194-06:00"as many twists as a Guy Ritchie movie" ..."as many twists as a Guy Ritchie movie" LOL!!<br /><br />I think that's more my style as well. Develop characters first, then start layering in the plot tangles. I'm sure your story will turn out great. Good luck with it and keep writing!Logan E. Turnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06468248031164464546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2704068707505574570.post-3607192766995573322011-01-05T11:40:16.861-06:002011-01-05T11:40:16.861-06:00Congrats on finishing NaNoWriMo! I tend to focus ...Congrats on finishing NaNoWriMo! I tend to focus more on character than plot at the beginning, which is why I'm currently reworking subplots on my WIP. I started with a basic idea ("kids on an adventure in space!"), and decided where I wanted them to end up, and that I wanted as many twists as a Guy Ritchie movie. I started writing with just that idea and kept layering on more and more complications and backstory. Now it's kind of a tangled mess but I still have hopes for it :)Rachel Searleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09413906883952940334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2704068707505574570.post-6616463979885941692011-01-05T11:36:11.246-06:002011-01-05T11:36:11.246-06:00It was pretty nuts, but it also made me feel reall...It was pretty nuts, but it also made me feel really pumped up and capable. I am woman hear me roar, etc. etc. :)Logan E. Turnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06468248031164464546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2704068707505574570.post-76404402263189835392011-01-05T09:31:35.098-06:002011-01-05T09:31:35.098-06:00I'm not a writer, mostly because I'm terri...I'm not a writer, mostly because I'm terrible at creating characters and plot. And writing dialogue. So, yeah, not a writer. <br /><br />Big, huge, gigantic congratulations for accomplishing NaNoWriMo! I can't even fathom the thought of writing an entire novel in a month. Even a bad novel. What a huge accomplishment! I hope you're proud :)Small Reviewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16072352095510905410noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2704068707505574570.post-38652083153461819282011-01-05T09:21:35.926-06:002011-01-05T09:21:35.926-06:00I love long comments! This is great. I want there ...I love long comments! This is great. I want there to be dialogue here. <br /><br />I think the "what if" device is a great idea. I think I do sometimes get these flashes of scenes/scenarios in my head, but I need to be better about writing them down, and then going back and trying the what if suggestion to wring as much out of the possibilities as I can. <br /><br />Great tip! Thanks Holly!Logan E. Turnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06468248031164464546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2704068707505574570.post-44796454100889954462011-01-05T08:15:05.175-06:002011-01-05T08:15:05.175-06:00Wow that was *really* long. Sorry. lolWow that was *really* long. Sorry. lolHolly Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07901177289663629475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2704068707505574570.post-21249267896780186632011-01-05T08:14:45.786-06:002011-01-05T08:14:45.786-06:00For me, it's the plot that comes easily. It c...For me, it's the plot that comes easily. It comes in a flash of brilliance (well, I think it's brilliance anyway lol), falls from the sky and right into my head. Usually in the form of a sentence.<br /><br />Characters take more work for me...lots of time detailing and filling out character worksheets.<br /><br />The trick with plot, for me anyway, is to always ask, "What if?" Example: Claude, the great oaf football player who knows it all, is shoved against Jenny, our delicate, unpopular, artsy main character, in a corner and asks her to prom.<br /><br />Sure, Jenny could fallow the typical tropes and say yes, but what if? What if she said no? What if she went Ninja and kicked some jock butt? What if she devised her own plot around his joker plot to make fun of her so he's the fool in the end?<br /><br />See? Ask what if and let your imagination run wild.<br /><br />And remember...practice makes perfect. Don't give up. :) If your NaNo project isn't doing it, write another one.Holly Hillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07901177289663629475noreply@blogger.com